Comments on: An excellent EuroScience adventure, Part I http://www.mendeley.com/blog/2008/07/an-excellent-euroscience-adventure-part-i/ Manage, share, discover academic knowledge Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:04:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Mendeley Blog » Blog Archive » An excellent EuroScience adventure, Part II http://www.mendeley.com/blog/2008/07/an-excellent-euroscience-adventure-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-761 Mendeley Blog » Blog Archive » An excellent EuroScience adventure, Part II Sat, 26 Jul 2008 02:48:25 +0000 http://www.mendeley.com/blog/?p=162#comment-761 [...] writing so much about the other fun speeches, sessions, and things to do at the ESOF2008, I didn’t manage to [...] [...] writing so much about the other fun speeches, sessions, and things to do at the ESOF2008, I didn’t manage to [...]

]]> By: ChemSpiderMan http://www.mendeley.com/blog/2008/07/an-excellent-euroscience-adventure-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-713 ChemSpiderMan Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:01:41 +0000 http://www.mendeley.com/blog/?p=162#comment-713 The Open Access mandates could become a model for which to ensure that data are laid open to the public. If work is funded by public funds then maybe this can be used as a basis to request openness of the data. However, many institutions are funded by private industry and the funders would likely prefer data to stay closed (for them to use primarily). It may be released later or could be a condition of publication that data are made available with the publication. I'm optimistic but can't see the publishers pushing this really. It's not part of their business model The Open Access mandates could become a model for which to ensure that data are laid open to the public. If work is funded by public funds then maybe this can be used as a basis to request openness of the data. However, many institutions are funded by private industry and the funders would likely prefer data to stay closed (for them to use primarily). It may be released later or could be a condition of publication that data are made available with the publication. I’m optimistic but can’t see the publishers pushing this really. It’s not part of their business model

]]> By: Victor http://www.mendeley.com/blog/2008/07/an-excellent-euroscience-adventure-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-710 Victor Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:23:02 +0000 http://www.mendeley.com/blog/?p=162#comment-710 Hi Jean-Claude, I agree that this should be the ultimate motive behind Open Notebook Science. The problem I described, as well as the question of possible external incentives, was raised by the panelists of the session, and I think they have a point. In my opinion, it's all very discipline-specific. As Prof. Murray-Rust and the session participants pointed out, it's no coincidence that the academic disciplines which generate the most data (such as astronomy/astrophysics or genetics/molecular biology) are the most-inclined and best-organized when it comes to sharing raw data. In my field (consumer research/social psychology), where only little data is generated, Open Notebook Science is virtually unheard of. I believe it's because the raw data is collected with very specific research questions in mind, which increases the danger of someone else "scooping" your publication if you lay open the data. Here, external incentives could provide a solution. Hi Jean-Claude,

I agree that this should be the ultimate motive behind Open Notebook Science. The problem I described, as well as the question of possible external incentives, was raised by the panelists of the session, and I think they have a point.

In my opinion, it’s all very discipline-specific. As Prof. Murray-Rust and the session participants pointed out, it’s no coincidence that the academic disciplines which generate the most data (such as astronomy/astrophysics or genetics/molecular biology) are the most-inclined and best-organized when it comes to sharing raw data.

In my field (consumer research/social psychology), where only little data is generated, Open Notebook Science is virtually unheard of. I believe it’s because the raw data is collected with very specific research questions in mind, which increases the danger of someone else “scooping” your publication if you lay open the data. Here, external incentives could provide a solution.

]]> By: Jean-Claude Bradley http://www.mendeley.com/blog/2008/07/an-excellent-euroscience-adventure-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-709 Jean-Claude Bradley Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:57:04 +0000 http://www.mendeley.com/blog/?p=162#comment-709 It will be hard to externally incentivise Open Notebook Science. We do it because it enhances collaboration and enables us to more richly interact with the chemistry community. It will be hard to externally incentivise Open Notebook Science. We do it because it enhances collaboration and enables us to more richly interact with the chemistry community.

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