I graduated with a B.S. from the University of Wisconsin at Stevens Point in forestry. Prior to my research position with Dr. Mark Rickenbach I divided up my time spending winters in forestry and summers as a professional sailing instructor on Lake Michigan. Most of my early adult life was spent in the United States Air Force in various roles from hostage negotiation to an evaluator for the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, travelling throughout most of Western Europe in the early 1990’s. I went on to start a small wooden boat shop in Milwaukee and eventually work with disadvantaged children and the youth program at The Milwaukee Community Sailing Center. I have always been interested in environmental issues surrounding water and forests, but teaching children wooden boat building led to an enhanced interest in forestry, and subsequently how social behavior impacts environmental issues and their management. I think when all is said and done resilience will be the mantra of the future if we are to make any headway in environmental issues.